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Night owls

John Ellis and Joe Klein

Joe Klein and John Ellis on what's happening and what happens next. Joe Klein is the author of seven books and "Sanity Clause," a Substack newsletter. John Ellis is the founder and editor of two Substack newsletters — News Items and Political News Items. The two friends have covered American politics for a combined 95 years.


Episode 20: Joe and John talk to veteran Democratic Party campaign manager Joe Trippi about why Trump might lose and what Biden has to do to beat him.  Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 19: Joe and John talk to Mark Tercek about the changing climate and the challenges it presents. Mark is well-qualified to discuss the "issue," having served as CEO of the Nature Conservancy for over a decade. It's a very informative discussion, entirely due to Mark's encyclopedic knowledge of the subject matter. Listen and learn. You'll learn a lot.   Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 18: John and Joe consider the Arizona Supreme Court decision on abortion. Joe unpacks five potential threats to President Biden this fall. Plus, a discussion of NPR's integrity in light of a bombshell essay about its inherent bias.  Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

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Joe and John interview Jane Perlez, former New York Times Beijing bureau chief, about her upcoming 8-part podcast series: "Face-Off, The U.S. vs. China." Once friends, now foes, the question is: what happens next?   Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 16 (Part 2): Part Two of a two-part interview with Nicole Perlroth, author of "This is How They Tell Me The World Ends: The Cyber-Weapons Arms Race." It's the future coming at you.  Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 16 (Part 1): Part One of a two-part interview with Nicole Perlroth, author of "This is How They Tell Me The World Ends: The Cyber-Weapons Arms Race." It's the future coming at you. Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 15: Trump's mighty cash crunch, Larry Summers' persuasive  inflation research, Carville and Hunt's Politics War Room and the future coming at you: a $10,000 BYD EV from China called "Seagull." All that and more from an undisclosed location in Key West, Florida.  Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 14: Chuck Schumer puts Bibi on the clock. Systems of weapons, not weapon systems. GM is watching you drive, all the time, and selling your data to auto insurers. This and more in Episode 14 of 'Night Owls.' Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 13: A busy week in American politics….Super Tuesday, the Supreme Court, the State of the Union and…..perplexity.ai. Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 12: A lengthy interview with Steve Coll, author of the just-released "". Mr. Coll is the David Halberstam of his generation. You'll understand why we say that after you listen to this episode. Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 11: A walk around the news neighborhood. Joe surveys a political culture going off the rails.  John bangs on about deep fakes and the possibility of a "hacked" election. More important:  the pace of scientific discovery accelerates, advancing hope around the world. Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 10: Joe Klein talks to Elaine Ciulla and William Galston, co-authors of the seminal paper The Politics of Evasion: Democrats and the Presidency, about immigration, Trump, the challenges facing the Democratic Party and more. Listen on Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 9: Joe thinks Trump may have peaked. John thinks Trump has a ceiling. We taped on Wednesday, so the Biden age issue will have to wait. Listen on Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 8: John and Joe discuss ongoing conflicts in the Middle East. John unspools a brief history of American far-right extremism. Joe considers the political power of Taylor Swift. Listen on Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 7: Joe and John ruminate on New Hampshire, Nikki Haley, deep fakes, cyberhacking and Mark Zuckerberg in the latest episode of 'Night Owls'. Listen on Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 6: Joe and John discuss the Iowa results. Joe is unnerved by some of the exit poll results. John expects DeSantis to endorse Trump before South Carolina. If the exit poll data are accurate, Haley has no chance of winning the GOP nomination. Listen on Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 5: Joe and John talk Iowa and New Hampshire, Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump, Barack Obama and Joe Biden, immigration and Ecuador, Tiger Woods and Nike. Mostly. Listen on Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 4: John and Joe discusses Trump's chances ahead of the Iowa caucuses and his appeal of a Colorado Supreme Court decision barring him from the state's ballot. John offers an idea for the new president of Harvard. Listen on Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 3: A Look Back, A Look Ahead. Joe thinks 2024 most closely resembles 1924, when the Democratic National Convention needed 103 ballots to arrive at a presidential nominee. John thinks a third party is being born and that Bob Gates would make No Labels more than a wild card in the 2024 election. Listen on Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 2: Joe's extensive experience reporting on the Middle East is evident. John's obsession with the property crisis in China is (briefly) unleashed. Listen on Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Episode 1: John and Joe (mostly) talk American politics in the inaugural edition of Night Owls. Listen on Spotify, Apple, Audible, or iHeart.

Host Bruce Carlson talks with John Ellis of News Corp, NBC, Boston Globe and currently at news-items.com, to discuss his theory on today's politics. Jacksonians, a group of people who behave in ways the media has misjudged are the force beyond today's polls numbers. We also took a bit about calling states for networks in elections, something Ellis had a role in in the 2000 election.

Bulwark host Charlie Sykes talks with Joe Klein and John Ellis about MAGA putting Taylor at the top of its enemies list, Greg Abbott inviting another Jan 6 at the border, and GOP governors coming out for just ignoring the Supreme Court — plus these potential tech disruptors in the election will set your hair on fire.

For this edition of "The Takeout," Major Garrett speaks to political analysts and hosts of the "Night Owls" podcast, Joe Klein and John Ellis. Ahead of the Super Tuesday primaries, the trio discuss all things politics, from President Biden's age, to the war in Gaza, to the happenings on the 2024 campaign trail.

Joe Klein and John Ellis sit down with Jim Haskel of Bridgewater Associates to discuss the 2024 presidential election campaign.

In this newest episode “Trump Beat Rupert Murdoch” Taegan Goddard, the founder and publisher of Political Wire, and John Ellis discuss Rupert Murdoch’s retirement, Fox News’s unsuccessful effort to make Donald Trump disappear and, on the eve of the second debate, where things stand in the GOP presidential nomination campaign.

In this fascinating conversation, John Ellis and Grant Williams discuss Code Inequality and the dangers it poses to society as well as the implications for governments as the rise of AI continues. We also discuss the lack of understanding in mainstream media about the level of threat posed by the financialization of everything.

John Ellis and Jim Haskel of Bridgewater Associates speak with  Karen Karniol-TambourBridgewater Associates’ co-Chief Investment Officer. They cover a wide range of topics, from markets to geopolitics to climate. It's said that energy and intelligence are what make a great podcast, Ms. Karniol-Tambour is a podcaster’s dream.

In this episode, we go one-on-one with news media industry veteran John Ellis about his 40+ year journey from NBC News, columnist for the Boston Globe and LA Times, leadership roles in the 21st century at CNBC, and FOX News. We also chat with Ellis on how he sees journalism and news publishing in general have changed over the decades, where the industry is today and how he feels it will evolve in the years to come.

News Items Podcast

BYJOHN ELLIS AND REBECCA DARST

Ninety percent of the news out there tells you nothing about where the world is going — ten percent of it tells you everything. Every afternoon on the News Items Podcast with John Ellis, John and Rebecca Darst focus on that ten percent — news that’s interesting, important or both. The podcast is based on John Ellis’ News Items, an email newsletter that goes out to organizations including the Council on Foreign Relations, Samsung Next, and the Wall Street Journal. Tune in every Monday through Thursday afternoon to hear decades of journalistic experience packed into 20 or so minutes of insight, plus guest interviews on finance, U.S. politics, foreign affairs, science and technology.